Matt: Yeah. Andrew: So when anyone clicked from Reddit to theoatmeal.com, they saw one of those three videos instead of The Oatmeal? How to Tell if Your Cat is Plotting to Kill You spent at least 20 weeks on the NYT bestseller list "Paperback Advice & Misc. Matt: Well, what Ive noticed with humor, in particular, is my characters are much funnier when theyre kind of bloated, sallow, obese people rather than lean, good looking whatever you want to call them. Make something interesting. Theres also that notion that people want to support an artist who they like. Matt Gaetz . [44] Inman, a fan of Tesla, promoted the fundraiser with a blog post on The Oatmeal calling for people and companies to donate. I think most of my book is visually oriented anyway and maybe a lot of writers, the only visual is the cover, so they focus on that like its this big thing. Andrew: [Laughs] Thats pretty clever. And how is that different from an employee who gets shares in the business? So I want to find out how you got there, how you built up this business. What was going on in your head? I need to hurry. Theres a sense of community with that, but its sort of halfway there because its a community and there are people commenting but they arent repeat users, they arent signed up, they arent doing anything. If not, they can just leave it alone. Theyll actually have a cover designed and the publisher wont allow them to use it. Usually, Ill semi-script something, loosely into a notepad. Or with a virtual assistant? Andrew: So 80 percent was coming in from the book in the first few months? When people know that there are going to be more frequent posts, theyre more likely to come back more frequently and then that just builds on itself. Sounds like you had the same experience? Andrew: SEOmoz is a search engine optimization website that you co-founded. And then that sort of evolved into, I actually do better with posters than anything else. Inman embodies a generation of online publishing entrepreneurs who came up as independent figures, with a touch of the outlaw. If you're a premium member, you can save your likes. A website is a bit harder to share. Matt: I think it was when I was comparing the words then and than. Or actually, no, sorry, thats from a completely different comic. [77], The Oatmeal was created by Matthew Inman (born 1982 or 1983). Matt: I really like Tumblr. This creative process was under this umbrella of control. People loved it. Im the founder of Mixergy.com, home of the ambitious upstart. In the last panel of that comic, I think theres something that not perfect, but it could be better. I carry them in my pocket and I write things down all the time when I get an idea. I created one when I was working for Mingle2 called How to Tell If Your Cat is Plotting To Kill You. The goal of it was kind of to build links, but it didnt really work as an SEO tool. I submit my stuff and it goes straight to the homepage every single time. And that basically evolved straight into comics. He used Shopify. He writes about just about anything that's on his mind, from his dog to his grammar pet peeves to. I didnt actually take it down, but I removed all the links because I was so ashamed of how awful it was. And when you started to do them more frequently, back in, I guess, was it October 2010, did I get that date right? [4], His first viral comic was "How to Tell if Your Cat is Plotting to Kill You",[2] and other comics have titles such as "How to Use a Semicolon",[2] "What it's Like to Own an Apple Product", "How the Male Angler Fish Gets Completely Screwed", "15-ish Things Worth Knowing About Coffee" and "How a Web Design Goes Straight to Hell. Andrew: Why do you think that you cant submit there? Do you know what I mean? What was the revenue breakdown between the two of them? That wasnt the actual number, but you dont earn much from that. Bon Wier, TX (1) Bryan-College Station (TX) (2) Corpus Christi, TX (2) Dallas-Fort Worth (TX) (7) Houston-Galveston-Brazoria (TX) (6) Killeen-Temple (TX) (2) Lubbock, TX (1 . Itll make you hate your job for about ten minutes, and then after that you get over it and you figure out what you did wrong and try to make some things better. In 2010, Inman said The Oatmeal received more than four million unique visitors per month. Andrew: Why do you think publishing more frequently changed things? Redd it if you like it. You used to be a consultant who showed other companies how to do search engine optimization. So from that you could connect, like, how long could I survive inside of my own washing machine. If you look at the actual character, its very crude, but its got things like gradients and drop shadows and all this stuff around it that a web designer uses to sort of beef up a work. its actually still there, its just an issue of debate. [1][2] Born in Chino, California, he moved with his family to the small, rural town of Hayden, Idaho, when he was in grade school. How do you deal with that? It banks on the humor and the insight in those comics and the utility of them. Matt: [Laughs] Ive actually never told anybody why I did that. The firm has a number of services, such as portfolio management for individuals . Andrew Warner: Hey, everyone. Andrew: Why do you think the donation didnt do as well as merchandise? How much more productive can you be if you use TeamworkPM.net? Im a one man operation and I just calculated the number of pageviews I got in 2010. And they rewarded me for it, so thats awesome because now Digg, they like having me on their website. Why not show that off? Ive had much better luck hooking them with Twitter and Facebook and my RSS feed than I have with e-mail. Matt: They did well. At that point, I wouldnt have gotten on Digg and been like, Hey, your mom and I made love under the stars. Actually, no, I just banned from Digg the first two months The Oatmeal was online, which is funny now because now Diggers love me. I read Reddit. Andrew: Im sitting here thinking, Should I ask this next question or not. I think Ill just go for it. [31][32], Revenue from The Oatmeal includes the sale of wall posters, greeting cards, calendars, clothing, coffee cups, signed prints, stickers, magnets, and badges. Chairman of the board of Vanderbilt University. You know, now that were talking about SEOmoz, I remember that I interviewed Rand Fishkin, the founder of SEOmoz, and when he was telling the story of how the company launched and grew, he never mentioned your name. Ha ha ha. Troll Lawyer Sues The Charities The Oatmeal Supports, "Lawyer Charles Carreon Suing The Oatmeal, American Cancer Society and National Wildlife Federation". And I think the money is worth the [inaudible 21:17], especially if Im interested in selling a poster or something. Why are things different there? [38] In 2020, the event was cancelled due to the COVID-19 pandemic, but a "virtual race" was organized instead. Usually, Ill submit to Digg first and then everything else, Ill do Digg, Twitter, Facebook and then Ill just leave it alone and watch the traffic. Do you have these issues and how do you deal with them? Matt: I figured, close enough, same month. So they did really well. So thats usually how I respond to it. Basically with design, which happened a lot at SEOmoz, I would make something, deliver it to the client, they would hate it. On one hand, Inman sees himself as a comedian, an artist who has to answer to nobody, a guy who works for himself and is thus finally free to mock people who dislike his work. That was the goal. And sometimes I do put out things that arent perfect, even if Id actually worked on it a bit, I would have been better. The last time I did an interview with you, lots of people ended up e-mailing me through that saying, Oh, I didnt know you lived in Seattle. But mostly just because the price difference is not that great at this point, so Im okay with leaving it PNG. The two-day event was to take place in May 2020 in Portland, Oregon, U.S. I appreciate your criticism, and blah, blah, blah. Find Matthew Inman's phone number, address, and email on Spokeo, the leading people search directory for contact information and public records. Yet Ill be sitting in my house, trying to work for six or seven or eight hours and Ive got nothing and Ive got Twitter going off and my IM, iTunes, all this crap in front of me just distracting me. Its going to ruin it. Matt: I think I was mostly happy there the first year or two, and then the last year or two I think its fair to say I was miserable there. At what point did you start to see consistent traffic coming from Digg? [37] The Beat the Blerch event took place every year from 2014 to 2019. Matt: I think Ive got four or five now and theres a sixth one in the works about how to use a comma. Thats really what changed everything. When youre working for yourself and a mistake can cost you personally money and cost you the business that you love, wouldnt you be more cautious? Matt: I used to think it as useful, but I actually found its just more poisonous than anything. So when you did start to publish them more frequently, how did it affect your work? Andrew: Its possible that he didnt mention you just because I didnt bring it up. There was a sense of urgency, as apparently there was an offer from another party to buy the site for commercial use. So thats why her names on there. And he said, I can almost quote him exactly, he said that he worked in a tiny little dark hole for 15 years with zero feedback, didnt do a book tour. I think when I launched How to Use an Apostrophe, I put out another grammar comic right away after that. Matt: I think I was clear enough. I probably wont put them on the comics anytime soon. I do like two sales a year. And also, I try not to put a lot of detail into them either, simply because, when you look at a comic character, Ive found the more detail you put into that character, the less funny they become. Would you mind if I post it on my site along with your name and your e-mail. But what I found was that, in the beginning, it was not super easy to sell something like that. So when I decided to make a website, I really had no way to name it after what it was themed. And to talk to me about it. And I did see that your comments are basically Facebook comments, right? [61] FunnyJunk alleged that those accusations were defamation and demanded $20,000 in damages. Some arent. Its dead simple and very effective. [45] The state of New York agreed to match donations up to $850,000. So basically I was this giant image hosting machine. I feel more whole as a person. You dont. Picture of a dolphin. Andrew: I notice for myself, sometimes in my interviews Im less articulate than other times. Matt: Well, in the first few months, I also did donations as well and that was a minor part of it. I dont do that. Its actually much funnier than a drunk 15 year old. Matt: I think it was just getting enough visibility and exposure that a couple publishing houses took notice and then the grammar comics obviously put my comics on the desk of every editor in America. These are feelings that are universal, that we all share. From what? [16][17][18], Inman appeared on an episode of Last Call with Carson Daly in 2010 and mentioned his web site. Alexandria Inman, Sandra Matthews, Teresa Inman, Holly Inman and Kristen Keyser, and many others are family members and associates of Matthew. I think it was six comics, two or three quizzes, and one or two illustrated stories. Andrew: Why not even further? What did you learn about selling in the early days? Matthew Inman Instructional Associate Professor of Electrical Engineering at University of Mississippi Memphis Metropolitan Area NSI-MI Technologies, +1 more University of Mississippi Matthew. Oct 2016 - Dec 20215 years 3 months. Twitter or Facebook? Andrew: Thats one of the benefits of video. Will you let something go out there that you feel isnt perfect because you have to put something out there? First, do you want to build a web app that interacts with phones? Of its 1,531 customer accounts, 76% belong to high-net-worth investors who have at least $1 million in investable assets. And then there were threads popping up saying. Shes got a degree in, I dont remember, library sciences or something, but shes the expert. When I worked there, we were actually under a different name, and it was just me, Rand, and his mom. Im looking at the comic version of you, and hes a fat guy with a pointy hat and he looks ridiculous. So it actually took me like two or three months to sell a couple hundred copies. Andrew: Yeah, it seems like, for him, its an e-mail newsletter, where he sends, what does he call it, one of his drawings a day. Wouldnt you worry more that youd lose this whole thing that you love so much? [34] Since then, the company Exploding Kittens has released five more games: Bears vs. Matt: Not really. Andrew: Not artists, writers have told me that. You have to be constantly making things they like rather than just a one-off. I dont do sales very often. Do you ever get writers block? Im wondering whats in it for you? Andrew: And you send all your comics to her now? Sold by: Amazon.com Services LLC. What got you to create the How to Use a Semicolon comic? Andrew: What was in the original book? Inman has produced a series of Oatmeal books with content from the webcomic and previously unpublished material, related board games, and other merchandise. I had to respond like, Well, Im sorry you feel that way. Andrew: And you were spending thousands of months on bandwidth costs? . Andrew: How do you go from having no idea, to suddenly getting the idea, to drawing it, to putting it on the computer and getting it out? You just embedded one of the Facebook commenting systems into your site. Matt: In the beginning, I had a self-published book, and I wanted the revenue to all come through that. Andrew: What made you decide to launch a website? At that point, werent you nervous? Whats the value for readers who see the content online in buying the book? So the noun formula is probably the simplest thing that Ive ever done to generate ideas. I started using Tumblr for the first time like a month ago and I love the software. [62] Infuriated by the demand, Inman set up a Indiegogo fundraiser to raise $20,000, but to give the money to the National Wildlife Federation and the American Cancer Society. [44][46], The fundraiser raised $1,370,461 from over 33,000 backers,[47] including Joseph Sikorski, director of the Tesla film Fragments From Olympus,[48][49] and Elon Musk. [39], In June 2019, Exploding Kittens Inc. announced the planning of a live gaming convention. Yeah. What was the next thing that you started selling? Matthew Inman, creator of the geek-famous internet comic The Oatmeal, has a pretty great gig. But yeah, definitely posting more frequently in the beginning helped a lot. Matt: I dont know. 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And that actually was able to pay for the hosting costs until I had posters and all that stuff in hand that I could actually sell things on the website. Inman has produced a series of Oatmeal books with content from the webcomic and previously unpublished material, related board games, and other merchandise. Andrew: Just the grammar ones. Andrew: Gotcha. Were you trying to avoid their wrath as you were designing? So I put up a donation page saying, Hey, do you guys want to support The Oatmeal? I just finished Hugh Macleods latest book, an he seems to think of e-mail as his direct channel to his fans. Structural Info Filmography Known for movies Death Couch (2010) as Writer Chopstick Drummer (2016) as Writer The Machine (2010) We dont want him to have to work with clients, so lets go buy his book and that way he can.. Matt: I dont think shell Have you read about her? Matt: The old formulas I used to use when I was building comics and quizzes for clients was I would take the specific word that I want to market, so if Im trying to sell dishwashers or laundry machines, I would take that word and then basically just come up with a series of random nouns and try to attach them to it to try to create something whimsical or funny or draw connection that you didnt see before. Twilio Twilio provides a web-service API for businesses to build scalable, reliable communication apps. Just to troll them, mostly. So I tried to just pick a bunch of different things that I knew I could make work. So I feel like doing something where I can draw, where I can be funny and creative was much, much better. Matt: No. So I was actually spending three or four grand a month on hosting costs for all the images I was serving up, and I wasnt getting that back in. Matt: Last month? I send it to her just to make sure and she comes back with all these little minor things that might be wrong. The Oatmeal is a webcomic and humor website created in 2009 by cartoonist Matthew Inman. Five Reasons to Punch a Dolphin in the Mouth, The Oatmeal, done. Matt: Yeah. Matt: In what way? So with that I saw, this is the type of book that I want to write, these guys, I know they wont try and screw with it, so lets work with them. [67] Carreon also filed a pro se lawsuit Carreon v. Inman et al in United States District Court for the Northern District of California against Inman, Indiegogo, the American Cancer Society, and the National Wildlife Federation in response. If You Still Think That Success Online Is About Building The Best How Russell Brunson solved the biggest challenge of online sales, How a list nerd grew Ranker.com to 27,000,000 monthly visitors, Physical Product Case Study: How two guys are competing with Yeti, How to persuade potential customers into becoming customers, How Dollar Beard Club is hitting $8M in its first 8 months. And now, I just do it based on if I think its poster-worthy and how much feedback I get. Theres no perfect representative of my comics on pencil and paper. I didnt decide, oh, Im going to rank for semicolons and build a business on it. Rand was the CEO and his mom was the Vice President and we grew the company together. Id put all this work into them and slowly debate on what I should do and what I shouldnt. Whether that be something that we have a problem with, like the BS that we have to go to through getting onto an airplane or something minor like when you walk through a cobweb and the worst part isnt that you have cobwebs on you, its that you think theres a spider on you. I think in comments about this Economist article on Hacker News, people were talking about the comments that were said about you and search engine optimization on Reddit. Id throw a fit and that would be the end of the client. Why didnt you just say, Im going to abandon this website and go find other projects? Matt: Oh, I was terrified. Or with a team of employees? Seed it wherever you want to seed it and just see what happens. Lets just put it to you that way. Andrew: I thought I saw an expression on your face when I said 2010 and then that made me realize I had the wrong date. Since then. So I realized that a lot of people in our generation, we stress about app purchases at $1.00 even though we buy things like iPhones and cars and houses and $8.00 mochas. I think it was a grammar poster of How To Use an Apostrophe, was the first product. I wouldnt be in an office or anything like that. Ive been meaning to do some kind of split test or something to figure out what will make the posters sell better or whatever, but I put most of my energy just into making better comics. Matt: Hows that different from an employee that gets shares? How do you get your ideas out there? I used the same tool to draw comics that I drew websites with. It was kind of informal, and the understanding was I had X percent of the company if we were to sell and when I quit, that kind of dissolved. I know that doesnt go a long way if you look at the music industry, but it did for me. Andrew: Are you worried that she might come after you right after she comes out of prison? So, what about this though? And not necessarily that theyre being mean, its just that they seem to have room temperature IQs when they comment in YouTube comments. He usually worked at home, but as he finds it difficult to go long periods without social contact, he often goes to a coffee shop to work. It just worked as a comic. (Hennessey, Christopher)", "The Oatmeal's Matthew Inman talks about Bainbridge, his new Netflix series", "Eat Your Oatmeal: How a Fremont programmer created one of the web's top cartoons", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Oatmeal&oldid=1141750536, Short description is different from Wikidata, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 26 February 2023, at 16:21. But on a plane its like being locked into this boring, boring room so you have nothing to do but farm your own brain for crops. [63][4] The campaign raised $220,024 at completion. And one of the questions I asked him was what kind of feedback did you have on your work and did it change your work. Teachers buy them in bulk and hang them in the classroom. With Twitter and Facebook, those are my own fans who have committed to following me. And also I think I had one or two comics that did really well, and I realized that if I made more of these comics that did well, I could probably sustain myself with it. It was an inspiring story too. Illustrator is much better or just pen and paper mixed with a pad and Photoshop. And when Im making a comic and its like today, its a Tuesday and Ive got the rest of the day to draw, for some reason I feel like I have to get this comic out as quick as possible. So if one guy can generate that much traffic, I feel like the Internet has kind of come to fruition. I just dont read it if its about me because its usually not very nice. 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